Artist vs. Engineer

Dutton's used another Alfred Lessing example that the distinction can lose sight of the fact that in that certain respects all arts are creative, and correlatively, all arts are performing.

The pianist’s recorded his tracks at a practice tempo, and the engineers speeded it up. Smith loves the new recordings but doesn’t know of the technical changes. Jones does know. When the secret is revealed Smith is disappointed. Extra –aesthetic conditions of the engineer.- Alfred Lessing

Lessing’s distinction between creative and performing arts: don’t confuse the actor with the playwright, the conductor with the composer and the dancer with the choreographer.

R&B artist Rihanna did a lip sync performance at the Teen's Choice awards. Discuss why an artist might make the choice to perform this way. Is it forgery to replicate a performance of yourself?





Ashlee Simpson went on SNL and was caught in an epic fail when the wrong tracks were loaded. this is a Clip of her reheasal from 60 Minutes.

Is it just a tribute?

Dutton wrote that the critics didn't care for Hans van Meegeran's own work. He painted Vermeer's as a last laugh to the critics. Perhaps he also liked Vermeer's work. Rock n' Roll legends have reached a status where many performing artist now pay tribute their favorite bands. Is it just a tribute, or is it forgery? Discuss.

Van Halen



Atomic Punks, A Van Halen Tribute Band

Coldplay vs Joe Satriani

Last year there was some controversy over Coldplay's "Viva La Vida" & Joe Satriani's "If I Could Fly" Here are two snippets that I found on YouTube.com

ACTIVITY 02

Dutton gives the Alfred Lessing example.

Lessing said, forgery only exists in the” creative” but not the performing arts. (Lessing, paragraph 6)
Compare the following music tracks. Both of these songs use the same four chords. Are the how are the similar? Do you think it's forgery?

ACTIVITY #1

Activity One- Copies of Art- Official/Original & Forgeries

Dutton's view on these forgeries is that there is no aesthetic difference. Why reject them? It can make no aesthetic difference whether the work is forged or not.

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This presentation is based off the following article:

Denis Dutton, “Artistic Crimes: the Problem of Forgery in the Arts, “ British Journal of Aesthitics 19:4 (1979): 302-14

The Author's Thesis:

"Since the aesthetic object as perceived is no different after the revelation that it is forged, the inference to be drawn is that it had previously been critically valued not for its intrinsic aesthetic properties, but because it was believed to be the work of an esteemed artist." (Paragraph 1)

Dutton's Supporting Arguements

1) Hans van Meegeren’s forgeries- why reject it? There is no aesthetic difference. (Dutton, D, paragraph 5)

2) It can make no aesthetic difference whether the work is forged or not. (paragraph 5)

3) Arthur Koestler – The object’s status as an original or forged is extraneous information, incidental to its intrinsic aesthetic properties. Any one that pays an enormous amount of money for an original and has no interest of a reproduction which he/she can’t tell the difference from the original, or worse, who chooses an aesthetically inferior original in preference to an excellent or superior forgery is said to be at best confused and at worst a snob. (Koestler,A, paragraph 5)

4) Alfred Lessing- forgery only exists in the” creative” but not the performing arts. (Lessing, A, paragraph 6)

5) Lessing- Smith and Jones example- The pianist’s recorded his tracks at a practice tempo, and the engineers speeded it up. Smith loves the new recordings but doesn’t know of the technical changes. Jones does know. When the secret is revealed Smith is disappointed. Extra –aesthetic conditions of the engineer.

6) Lessing’s distinction between creative and performing arts: don’t confuse the actor with the playwright, the conductor with the composer and the dancer with the choreographer.

7) The distinction can lose sight of the fact that in that certain respects all arts are creative, and correlatively, all arts are performing.

Dutton's Conclusion:

The significant opposition of “forged” and “original” needs to be correctly represented. The predictable challenges to this involves the insistence that while I (Dutton) have been directing attention to human performances, what is really in question in appreciating works of art is the aesthetic experience. (Paragraph 20) Against those who insist that an object’s status as forged is irrelevant to its artistic merit.

Works Cited

Denis Dutton, “Artistic Crimes: the Problem of Forgery in the Arts, “ British Journal of Aesthitics 19:4 (1979): 302-14